Friday, September 26, 2008

Lying to Children

At my house, we have birds. My wife and my son have terrible allergies to fur-bearing creatures, so dogs and cats are not an option. My daughter desperately wants a cat, but it is not in her future while she lives with her mother and brother. She still believes though, if she nags her mother or me long enough, she will get a cat. It hasn’t worked. Nevertheless, when she asks about it, I give the straight answer about her mother and brother’s allergies.

In today’s For Better or For Worse, new-run John’s explanation of why mom doesn’t want a dog is not particularly truthful. The premise behind John’s logic is that since there is a time during the day when Elly is at home with just Lizzie, she would end up looking after the dog. Therefore, it is practical for the Pattersons not to get a dog. According to John’s logic, having that time alone with the dog makes you the sole bearer of responsibility for the dog.

From our old-run experience, we know a dog is just around the corner in the form of Farley, and so this logic is a lie. Elly proves to be able to handle a dog while John is at work and Michael is at school. We also know that the kids actively take care of the animals in the Patterson home (aside from Mr. B, which is another story). Knowing the future makes John’s little talk here, appear especially untruthful.

The true answer is that John doesn’t want to make the agreement with Elly to help take care of the dog. Both he and Elly know that if a dog comes, he is going to put all the responsibility for the dog’s care on her. He doesn’t tell that to Mike. He uses words like “practical” and “it stands to reason” to confuse him. I hate that kind of talk with my kids. I just tell them the answers and hope I don’t get asked anything too difficult to answer in a public venue, like the time when my daughter asked me where babies come from while we were out grocery-shopping.

8 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

howard,

The true answer is that John doesn’t want to make the agreement with Elly to help take care of the dog. Both he and Elly know that if a dog comes, he is going to put all the responsibility for the dog’s care on her. He doesn’t tell that to Mike. He uses words like “practical” and “it stands to reason” to confuse him.

By having John lie through his crooked teeth, Lynn is pointing out that Rod is a bastard. Always and ever, he pulled the same stunt of blaming Elly for the chaos that he caused. Instead of admitting that he was a selfish jerk who needed to change his ways, he always blamed things on hormones.

4:41 AM  
Blogger April Patterson said...

I had the same thoughts regarding John's lying and jerkishness, plus the usual about young children not thinking in cutesy Lynn-wordplay. Fail.

6:48 AM  
Blogger howard said...

Always and ever, he pulled the same stunt of blaming Elly for the chaos that he caused.

I think the difference here is that Elly is the one who takes the stand of “no dog” and new-run John is shown to support that stance. Elly rules the family in either case. New-run John is pro-Elly. Lynn probably likes the fact new-run John makes excuses for Elly’s decision (as usual made without consulting John). Old-run John doesn’t support that stance and works with Mrs. Baird to take Elly down. The problem in both instances is that Elly doesn’t want to take care of the dog by herself, and neither John steps in to say he will help to alleviate that concern. I doubt that Lynn sees this perspective. Whenever she shows John defeating Elly on some point, like buying the George Stibbs’ place, he usually does it by teaming up with someone else and ganging up on Elly. In the case of Farley, his teammate is Mrs. Baird. The interesting part is to see if Lynn will show those reprints straight, or if she will make some accommodation to show new-run John is not the same as old-run John.

7:09 AM  
Blogger howard said...

aprilp_katje,

I had the same thoughts regarding John's lying and jerkishness, plus the usual about young children not thinking in cutesy Lynn-wordplay. Fail.

Lynn doesn’t seem to be able to let go of the wordplay, or for that matter, realize that the wordplay destroys any thought that her characters have a real concern about the matter. “I’m sad I don’t get to have a dog, but not so sad I can’t make a joke about it. Whoo-hoo!!”

7:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't think it was a lie. I thought it was John's point of view. John thinks that, since he is the breadwinner, he shouldn't have to do any work around the house. It "stands to reason" to him that if there were work associated with a dog, it would be up to Elly to do it. This is/was a really common viewpoint amongst men from that generation. Sure, it's asinine. But I think John is pretty honest about his position on that.

I can kind of identify with Mike on this point. We were not allowed to have pets when I was young because of this very problem: Dad wouldn't do any of the work, and Mom was already taking care of four kids and didn't need more work. So Mom vetoed it. We kids were frustrated but kind of understood her point.

12:58 PM  
Blogger howard said...

qnjones,

It "stands to reason" to him that if there were work associated with a dog, it would be up to Elly to do it. This is/was a really common viewpoint amongst men from that generation. Sure, it's asinine. But I think John is pretty honest about his position on that.

Honest indirectly. John doesn't actually say that because he is the breadwinner, he shouldn't have to do any work around the house to little Michael. He does say it indirectly though, when he talks about his work before bringing it back to Elly.

12:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really wanted a dog when I was a kid. Really, really, really wanted one. For years and years. I just ... I don't think 5-6 year olds get that depressed about not getting a pet. Maybe Mike has some kind of juvenile depression and it's not just that he can't get a dog?

7:30 AM  
Blogger howard said...

twg,

I don't think 5-6 year olds get that depressed about not getting a pet. Maybe Mike has some kind of juvenile depression and it's not just that he can't get a dog?

Possibly. For some reason Lynn Johnston has made the issue over getting Farley as getting a dog for Mike, whereas Farley was a family dog in his prior incarnation. Maybe juvenile depression is her way of fleshing out the character. I know my kids didn't start wanting pets until they were 8-9 years old.

1:00 PM  

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