Wednesday, February 13, 2008

5 Years Old and Need To Be Pinned to Get Clean

It has been a long time since I washed a kid. I remember the ritual of it. The bath water had to be the right temperature before my kids would agree to get in. My kids liked the bubbles and lot of their favourite toys in the bath with them. They played with the toys and I washed the kids, and occasionally I would have to take a toy out of their hands if it got in the way of the washing. I honestly cannot remember a time when I had to pin them down to clean them and certainly not when they were 5 years old, when the child is getting to the age where they can bathe themselves. I remember my son was obsessed with not getting shampoo in his eyes, and so if he did not get rinsed almost immediately after a shampooing, he would get upset.

When I had to pin a kid was mainly when they were very little. I remember those occasions vividly.

1. Trimming my son’s fingernails in the first 18 months. Baby fingernails are just like little razor blades and if they are not trimmed, they can slice you up. My son hated it and fought it tooth and nail (so to speak). There was no distracting him with toys or any kind of trick like that which worked. We tried them all, and ultimately it boiled down to daddy pinning the baby, while mommy trimmed the nails. It was amazing to me how strong a baby can be when they are fighting something with every ounce of strength they have.
2. Changing my daughter’s diaper. Babies’ back muscles can be quite strong. My daughter loved to arch her back on the changing table, making it virtually impossible to change her diaper because her little bottom would be flying about in the air. My wife did not have the strength to do it, and so I often had to put my muscles to work to unarch that back and get the diaper on as quickly as possible before the exposure to open air caused other things to happen.
3. My daughter in the first 18 months hated car seats and screamed throughout the course of any ride where she had to be in one, no matter how many times we adjusted the straps. She did not like being held down, like car seats do. My wife and I started to do anything we could do to avoid traveling with her in the car.

Eventually my kids grew out of those stages; but in today's For Better or For Worse we have Elly Patterson scrubbing at her son like she was giving a dog a bath. The part I find interesting is that Michael’s complaints have less to do with the idea of being clean and more to do with Elly’s techniques. His comment about water in his ears, for example, doesn’t say he prefers his ears to be dirty, but doesn’t like water in his ears. This a stark contrast to a boyhood character getting a bath like Dennis the Menace or a Tom Sawyer, where the idea of a bath almost always led to something like having to dress up in uncomfortable clothes or go to church, which was their main area of complaint.

Another point from my real life. My daughter prefers me to brush her hair. My wife does it the brutal way, where she drags the brush through the tangles and pulls them out by brute force. I always hated that when I was a kid, so when I brush her hair, I try to work the tangles out without having to pull her hair away from her scalp to do it. It takes longer, but my daughter likes it a lot better.

Like my wife, who prefers her method of brushing for its speed, Elly Patterson ignores Mike’s protests about how she washes him and continues on under the premise that she has to do it that way because he is dirty and she is unwilling to consider an alternative. This is pretty typical of Elly, whom we will later see has only one way to load a dishwasher and one way to fold laundry. She even stuck by her sheet-shaving when Mike, Dee and Elizabeth mocked her for doing it.

Hey, Elly! You don’t have to be brutal to scrub a kid. I used to simply say things like, “Let me see your arm” to my kids just before I washed their arms. If your kid is crying out in pain at age 5 when you wash him, then maybe it's not that he is a whiner, but he really is in pain.

22 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Splish, splash, my kid was taking a bath..."
I remember using a halo-shaped shampoo shield to keep soap and water out of my daughter’s eyes. This soft-foam crown made shampooing her hair tolerable.

If it were green, instead of pink, I would have recycled it as a Statue of Liberty headpiece!

Anon NYC

11:39 PM  
Blogger DreadedCandiru2 said...

You would think that he'd almost old enough to bathe himself by now but, as you said, Elly would shoot that idea dowm because he wouldn't be doing it "right". She has to rake her claws through the kid's scalp and slosh water into his ear because she cannot change how she does things just because they don't work. To people like her, if something doesn't pan out, just put more force into it.

3:20 AM  
Blogger howard said...

Anon NYC,

A shampoo shield? Interesting. I remember they used to have head bands to accomplish the same kind of thing, but my kids never took to them.

4:42 AM  
Blogger howard said...

dreadedcandiru2,

I am sure that Lynn Johnston was trying to go for the "Elly is a good mom who washes her son, even though he fights her every inch of the way", so his protestations to remain dirty can be used for comic effect. Your comments reflect one of the side effects of going back into the past, when there is 28 years of strip history to show that one of the main aspects of Elly's parenting style is to force her way onto others.

To me this is one of the dangers of the hybrid reprint style, to see how character traits done for humour were repeated over and over so that it is difficult to find them funny any more with the whole history behind them.

I think it would be like reading the Cathy strip over time and realizing just how many times she said, "AACK". The first couple of times would be funny, and then after that it would become an annoying character flaw.

4:59 AM  
Blogger DreadedCandiru2 said...

howtheduck:

To me this is one of the dangers of the hybrid reprint style, to see how character traits done for humour were repeated over and over so that it is difficult to find them funny any more with the whole history behind them.

It's just lucky for Lynn that her core audience doesn't pay attention to things like that. As you said yesterday, they don't have much of an attention span and therefore the constant repititon of gags like this aren't seen as a problem because they aren't aware that they're seeing the same joke as they did a little while ago, let alone that there are lasting consequences.

8:20 AM  
Blogger howard said...

dreadedcandiru2,

It's just lucky for Lynn that her core audience doesn't pay attention to things like that.

When you get right down to it, the vast majourity of For Better or For Worse plotlines are relatively forgettable, and most of the core audience wants to be able to go in every day and see that little thing which the Pattersons are doing which is like their life and then go on to read the next comic strip. There has to be a certain comfort in seeing Elly react the same way every time, just as you get the same comfort in seeing the endless repetition of the same joke in Marmaduke that he's a big dog and pushes people around. I don’t blame them. I am the same way when I read Marmaduke. I don’t expect great humour. I expect, “Look at what that whacky dog is doing now!” Now let’s go read about Sarge beating up Beetle Bailey.

But if I were to read a whole Marmaduke book, then I expect I would be quite tired of big dog jokes by the end of it. Oftentimes I feel the same way reading these old strips and looking at the young Elly who is also the same, old Elly.

9:31 AM  
Blogger DreadedCandiru2 said...

It is the endless hammering away at the same old themes that irritate me about the strip. Elly always flaps, honks and yells, John is always a smirking boob, Mike is always a sullen goof, Liz always whines and so on and so forth. The endless braying of the same note wears thin.

9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is the endless hammering away at the same old themes that irritate me about the strip.

dread,

Can you think of any comic strip that does not repeat the same-old same-old?

Anon NYC

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The idea or joke can be repeated more effectively if the strip is part of a STORY, I think.

When there are plotlines, character development (like the middle years of FBoFW) then we can overlook the same joke.

Once it becomes ABOUT the joke (like the zits arc in more recent times) then it just becomes repetitive and makes the reader feel like it's time to move along.

That in my opinion is the real danger with Lynn trying to go back to "joke" strip; we've come to expect a story.

Debjyn

10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to mention: water in the ears of small children can cause ear infections. You're not supposed to slosh water in their ears--just use a damp washcloth to wipe them. Elly is an idiot. I know this, and I don't even have kids!

I think this is Elly taking her aggression and frustration out on her kid in a fairly abusive fashion. Little kids get dirty, but just let them play in the bathtub awhile, maybe with some bath gel in the water--they will get clean. Of course, washing hair can be a challenge, but scrubbing? Really unnecessary. I can remember coming in from outside with two of my little sisters, covered head to toe in mud. We found mud puddles and had a mud fight. Mom hosed off most of the mud outside, then plunked us in the tub for awhile to play, with some Mr. Bubble. Apart from the hair washing, there was no scrubbing involved. Methinks Elly's desire to scrub the hell out of Mike and fight with him is coming from her frustration with her life and small children.

11:57 AM  
Blogger howard said...

Debjyn,

That in my opinion is the real danger with Lynn trying to go back to "joke" strip; we've come to expect a story.

Good point, and I think you are right. When I read the Coffee Talk section on the FBorFW website, many of the ardent followers of the strip are anxious to know what happens next with Liz and Anthony, or Grandpa Jim and his recovery, or April and her career pursuits. Pre-hybrid, the storylines didn’t move along that quickly, but post-hybrid they have slowed to a crawl, and there are a lot of “joke” strips used to set up the reprints.

12:41 PM  
Blogger howard said...

qnjones


Little kids get dirty, but just let them play in the bathtub awhile, maybe with some bath gel in the water--they will get clean. Of course, washing hair can be a challenge, but scrubbing?
A good soak does do wonders. When my kids decided to go at each other with drawing markers, I had to do a little scrubbing (and soaking and more scrubbing and more soaking).


Methinks Elly's desire to scrub the hell out of Mike and fight with him is coming from her frustration with her life and small children.
That’s possible. Elly frequently maintains discipline with her kids by shrieking at them, which is sometimes a sign of someone who has a difficult time translating frustration; so a very aggressive washing would not be out-of-line with that same character.

12:42 PM  
Blogger howard said...

Anon NYC,

Can you think of any comic strip that does not repeat the same-old same-old?

As I look in my newspaper, there are a few: Speed Bump, Bizarro, Brevity, Close To Home, F Minus, and Pardon My Planet are all single panel strips which do a different joke each day with very limited recurring characters or theme jokes. Mother Goose & Grimm often focuses on the characters of Mother Goose & Grimm, but occasionally it diverts over into completely different subjects, for example today, it does a joke on Superman using a credit card.

12:51 PM  
Blogger DreadedCandiru2 said...

That’s possible. Elly frequently maintains discipline with her kids by shrieking at them, which is sometimes a sign of someone who has a difficult time translating frustration; so a very aggressive washing would not be out-of-line with that same character.

This inability to properly handle life's little upsets would also explain all the coffee cups and other heavy objects that John had to dodge over the years. I've never seen Elly have a rational discussion of what's bothering her. She either yells at someone or displaces her aggression on a harmless passer-by.

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howard: Oh yes, magic markers are a different sort of thing. Heh. I remember the time we covered my baby sister with "tattoos" done in ball-point pen. (She was three.) She loved them. My mother was not so thrilled about sending her baby to nursery school looking like a motorcycle gangster. Pretty sure there was some scrubbing then! :)

2:54 PM  
Blogger howard said...

qnjones

My favourite is when my boy asked his sister to decorate his face to make him look like a tiger. She did a good job. We took pictures. He was a tiger for awhile though.

3:12 PM  
Blogger howard said...

dreadedcandiru2,

I've never seen Elly have a rational discussion of what's bothering her.

Rational Elly = Unfunny Elly
Coffee-drinking Elly = Unfunny Elly
Shrieking Elly = Funny Elly
Coffee-throwing Elly = Funny Elly

3:17 PM  
Blogger April Patterson said...

I could not find this strip in the first collection, but found a related one (Elly urging Nizzie to use the "poe") near the end of that 1979-1980 series.
Are saying this one is in a later collection, it's probably there but you didn't have time to do a thorough search, or maybe this is a strip the syndicate originally rejected in 1980?


howtheduck--picking up from yesterday's discussion. . . .

It's possible that I missed the strip, since I was flipping through fairly quickly in the morning. But I think I was doing a pretty good job scanning. I'll check again though. I checked the second collection as well. What I think might have happened is that the strip did run in the paper, but for some reason did not make it into a collection.

4:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howard

Speed Bump, Bizarro, Brevity, Close To Home, F Minus, and Pardon My Planet are all single panel strips which do a different joke each day with very limited recurring characters or theme jokes.

I don’t read any of the comics you cite, so I can’t dispute what you say. I do think it’s not fair to compare FBorFW with single panel strips that have limitless number of characters, surroundings, and absurd situations.

BTW, is it my imagination that some of the single panel strips copy each other?

Anon NYC

5:24 PM  
Blogger howard said...

Anon NYC,

I do think it’s not fair to compare FBorFW with single panel strips that have limitless number of characters, surroundings, and absurd situations.

Technically, that’s not the question you asked. However, if we are going to get at the heart of the matter (which is where I answer the question I think you are asking, but let me know if I am wrong), if I were to compare For Better or For Worse to like strips, I would have to define the category. Gasoline Alley ages its characters and tell stories like For Better or For Worse does. Baby Blue ages its characters somewhat and does jokes on family life like For Better or For Worse does. Funky Winkerbean ages its characters and tell serious stories like For Better or For Worse occasionally does. Each of them are kind of like For Better or For Worse and each of them has a certain degree of repetition with their characters.

If I were to do a fair comparison, I would have to do something like say, read all the strips of For Better or For Worse over its life time where Elly screamed at her kids (an annoying habit used for laughs) and compared it to all the Funky Winkerbean strips where Les acts like a nerd (an annoying habit used for laughs).

For me, Les would win, because I never found Elly screaming at her kids to be particularly funny, however, the sight of Les stuck at the top of the climbing rope in gym during early Funky Winkerbean was somewhat amusing to me.

BTW, is it my imagination that some of the single panel strips copy each other?

Not your imagination. I have wondered at this phenomenon for quite some time. From time to time, I will see 2 or 3 strips in the newspaper with the same or very similar jokes on the same subject and I have wondered if it was coincidence or their creators are doing it on purpose.

7:19 PM  
Blogger howard said...

aprilp_katje,

What I think might have happened is that the strip did run in the paper, but for some reason did not make it into a collection.

As the continuity goddess, I think you have an obligation to ask that question of the Coffee Talk. What do you think, oh goddess of continuity?

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the sight of Les stuck at the top of the climbing rope in gym during early Funky Winkerbean was somewhat amusing to me.

How many more times will we be subjected to this sight? I think Tom Batiuk's recent work (since Lisa died) is even more boring than LJ's.

Anon NYC

10:09 PM  

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